Superintendent Jeff McDaniel presents Reduction In Force plan for fiscal year 2014
by Jeremy Stewart, Staff Writer
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The Floyd County Board of Education is planning to cut more than $7 million in salaries from its 2014 budget.

All employees will be subject to possible reassignment or termination under a plan put forth at the board’s monthly meeting Tuesday night.

Superintendent Jeff McDaniel presented the Reduction In Force procedure that will go into effect for fiscal year 2014.

“This is a plan that we have been working on for quite a while, and it deals with some of the hard decisions that go along with the budget,” he said. “We have to assure a fiscally sound budget. That’s our No. 1 job.”

The RIF procedure is being implemented because of the loss in funding that the system has had to continuously endure for the last 10 years.

The plan includes any position or employee of the Floyd County Board of Education and discusses the way recommendations will be made concerning the termination or downgrading of employee positions.

McDaniel said principals would get the list of their employees who will be affected by the plan next Tuesday, but he did not say which positions would be terminated.

“To comment on any detail of it would be speculation at this point,” McDaniel said. “We will finalize those in the next week.”

Taken into consideration first will be employees’ professional expertise, effectiveness and performance, as reflected in evaluations as well as administrators’ observation and knowledge.

According to the presentation, the school system is projected to save more than $7 million through the Reduction In Force plan, with $4.1 million coming from trims in instruction and $1.2 million coming from cuts in school administration. The rest of the cuts include $700,989 in pupil services, $494,876 in general administration, $298,511 in maintenance, $95,989 in transportation and $91,997 in business services.

“This plan is only a part of the budget process, and it is something that we don’t take lightly,” Board Chairman David Johnson said.

The board approved the plan with a 4-0 vote. Board member David Cox was not present because of a family medical issue. The entire presentation and plan is expected to be posted on the school system’s website at some point today.

McDaniel said talks will be scheduled with department directors and principals in the coming days to go over the plan in depth and work out some of the finer details.

As referenced in McDaniel’s presentation, Floyd County Schools has seen the state reduce the school system’s allocation by more than $50 million between 2003 and 2013.

The system slashed general fund spending by more than $4 million between 2009 and 2013 — down to $94.5 million. The budgeted revenue for FY2014 is $86,072,000.

In an effort to deal with the state cuts, Floyd County Schools had eight furlough days built into the 2012-13 school year. Rome City Schools included 10 in its current calendar.

In other action, the board approved the 2013-14 school calendar with a 4-0 vote.

The school year will start Aug. 5 and include a Christmas break from Dec. 18 to Jan. 3. The last day of school will be May 22, 2014.

The calendar includes 175 days of instruction as opposed to the optimal 180 days. A copy of the calendar is available on the Floyd County Schools website.
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10years
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February 11, 2013
If everything they are doing is on the up and up, then lets do a complete audit of the BOE for the past 7 years. What the heck, we don't have any money anyway......The Board Members are the ones who have given the approval for all the past spending, from Henson till now! They are the ones that should be answering questions. Where's that chairman at? AND, why was there a private meeting today with a local Pastor, the Superintendent, and a Board Member? What, if anything, are you trying to hide gentlemen? Inquisitive minds would like to know? Why doesn't this paper try to do REAL INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING! PLEASE ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS AND REPORT TRUTH TO YOUR READERS! TEACHERS WILL NOT TALK ON THE RECORD FOR FEAR! FEAR KEEPS THEM QUIET AND THE COUNTY OFFICE IN POWER! THERE WILL BE NO TEACHER OUTRAGE UNTIL THE FIRING (RIF) BEGINS. Then you'll hear it all, but you will let it fall on deaf ears and call it being a disgruntled employee! I Sincerely feel for the teachers of our community! They deserve truth, and respect!
ohmy!
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February 12, 2013
please elaborate as to the meeting with the local pastor? why would they ( the board member and McDaniel ) be meeting with a local pastor when obviously there is so much to get done? This sounds very odd. Any idea as to who the pastor was?
Trelicious
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February 11, 2013
I wonder why the elected board members have been silent? Seems like we're all giving them a pass on this.
romefloyd3465
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February 10, 2013
The whole budget reducing attempt should have been started several years ago. Dr. Henson and to a lesser degree, Dr. Plunkett, added assistant superindent and associate superintendent jobs. If you look at the positions at the board, it seems that some duplicate one another. Terri Snelling and Tony Bethune, what's so different about their position? I teach at one of the public high schools and the middle school is less than a mile away. Reduce the assistant principle slot at the middle school and let the assistant high school principle float between the two. The principal and the resource officer can handle another thing that breaks out or the officer can transport the problem child from the middle to the high school. Cutting over $4 million from instruction will kill learning for many students. We have been told to except 30-35 students in classes without an EOCT (state mandated final exam). Classes that are non EOCT ones will have 35-40 kids. If an English teacher has 6 classes with about 30 kids, that would average out to no less than 180 essays. English classes will be hurt the worst because of all the writing that the new core curriculum expects to be done. I have seens elective classes at the high school with 6-7 students in them. I say take the home ec classes out of the high school and put them at the college and career academy. That way may be students could take culinary art classes through NW Georgia Tech. Home Ec is just that popular and could be offered at a different setting. I'm all for shutting down the alternative school. If a child is bad enough to do something at school that puts them their, let the court system handle it and put some in YDC or in the scared straight program. There are several students in every school that I wouldn't want my child to be around. However, these student often benefit from the PLC. Just move these program to the college and career academy.Getting rid of teachers just to save money is a bad idea. Our test scores are not all that great, just look at the percent that pass the social students graduation test, look at the graduation rate. All of the research shows that smaller class size is one of the best ways to improve education. The Chamber of Commerce has gone of record saying we do not have a large enough educated pool of workers. This RIF progam will eventually reduce the quality of education which in return reduce the number of qualified workers. Employers think what this would mean for you or other potential employers would think of the area. I encourage the public to attend the BOE meetings and let you voices be heard. Chances are that your little Suzy or Johnny will lose one of his favorite teacher because of the RIF. If he/she doesn't lose a favorite teach, be prepared to be in a class with 30-40 students. Then, see what happens to what he/she will learn. All the teacher can focus on will be crowd control. Go ask some of the Rome teachers will large classes.
tullock
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February 11, 2013
The chief administrators of schools are principals not principles.

You should also expect, not except, 30-35 per class.

Perhaps you should volunteer to be part of the RIF.
ohmy!
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February 12, 2013
Dear Tullock and all other members of the grammer police, GET OVER YOURSELVES! Many of us type on tiny cell phone touch screens. We are more concerned with the topic at hand than editing for punctuation and spelling. This is a local news commentary site, not a letter home written on "official" letterhead. You are so quick to point out others mistakes, do you do the same for your own? Or are you blinded by that log in your eye?

The legislature has cut education every year, it is no wonder that we continue to rank in the very bottom of the country in education. We must start standing up for education!

tullock
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February 12, 2013
Ohmy!--Well written. Maybe we should exempt you from the RIF. You do, however, seem rather tightly wound ...
Lbarn20
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February 10, 2013
The citizens of Floyd County keep asking the same question. Being that so many obvious Floyd Co employees are soliciting commentary, then answer their question: how many county office people will be losing their job? When can the citizens see this list? OR is it truly a process of protecting your own and firing those closest to the children? Also, Floyd County has had a hiring freeze for several years AND reduced 3 teachers from schools last year (they were reassigned where needed with no new hiring), so this RIF will NOT be new or getting rid if the bad teachers because there are very, very few of them!!!!!!! This RIF is getting rid of good, experienced teachers while the fat continues to stay!
revolvolution1
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February 11, 2013
The new articles in the paper said teachers would find out later this week. So the public will find out then. I have to disagree about the "fat" staying. The fact is, with new standards and higher state requirements, administrators are needed. But they will be cut too. The school board isn't to blame here...it's certainly our state leaders who have underfunded education for a decade!
10years
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February 10, 2013
How would you feel if you were working your butt off, staying late at work at watching kids other than your own participate in a sport or activity, buying kids other than your own a piece of clothing or shoes or pencils and paper, working after hours at home just to keep up with papers from 170 students, calling and listening to parents who DON'T CARE, and then taking a 10 day pay cut over the past 4 years. All the while people above you who manufacture policy and try to tell you how to do your job make 2, 3, 4, or 5 times more than you do....and they have not been in a classroom in YEARS OR EVEN DECADES! This is not a private business, these are people who are provided pay from the taxpayers, yet there is an hierarchy established where the ones who provide the least get paid the most?

The ones at the top never ask the ones at the bottom what they can do to help. (except from a special few) They keep the peasants in a state of fear, fear of being fired, (RIF'ed), or let go. You want to know why school teachers will not talk? FEAR! It started that way years ago, A former superintendent (before Dr.Plunkett) made the administration God-like. The BOE needs to be let go, they allowed this to happen.... and the people of Floyd County need to ask for a full audit of the FCBOE.

This is one instance where teachers need a UNION. Protect the GOOD TEACHERS, Protect GOOD ADMINISTRATORS, but let the poor over-paid people move on. All the people on here who are not teachers should try to do that job in a Middle School classroom for a week to see.......Add to that the high stakes testing and you have a barrel of monkeys!
chrishardin
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February 10, 2013
I've read comment after comment from multiple articles about the RIF. From time to time, I read about these excessive Central Office salaries and the overstaffing at the Central Office. I wonder how many of the people with this complaint have actually been to the Central Office to see the staffing levels. I know the staff was inflated during Henson's tenure. But, the downsizing began under Lynn Plunkett and due to retirements and other people leaving for various season I've been told it is continueing. The system has 21 schools. There are various needs for each school from special needs, to Title programs to AP programs to HR to food services, to social worker, etc.

The finger pointing needs to go to Atlanta. Why is the local delegation pushing for tennis complexes instead of saving jobs and instead of adequately funding education? The local delegation has continuously voted to cut education over the past few years. But they haven't stopped asking for pork barrel projects to be funded. Katie says she's a leader in education at the Capitol. She needs to show it.
revolvolution1
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February 11, 2013
@chrishardin You are 100% correct! The county office isn't to blame here. The lawmakers who've been in power for the last decade are the ones who keep cutting education funding. 50M in 10 years is absurd!
Bevans1974
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February 10, 2013
I've been following the comments on here and some of them are intelligent and some are far from that. Everyone wants to try to blame someone for the situation the school system is in today. The blame can be put in many places but just like the crisis our federal government is facing... blaming someone does solve the problem.

I do not have any children in the school system anymore, but if i did, from what i have heard about some long time teachers & admins i would have a big problem with some of the things i have heard them being accused of.

The one thing i would like to know, who is doing the evaluations of the teachers? If it's at the school level wouldnt cronyism still come into play? Why not do like other big companies and evaluate the teachers & other personal by their performance and by them passing tests.

School systems have long been filled with cronyism and quite frankly i'm not sure of what a good way to get rid of it would be. The teachers and other personal have to learn to trust each other to be able to get the best out of their students.

One suggestion that may make some sense is for the board to make across the board pay cuts for everyone. If everyone took a 5-10% pay cut it would save quite a bit of money. From the rough figures i was able to gather quickly it would be around 8 million in savings. I know that there are some people who would have a hard time taking any kind of pay cut, but a pay cut would be better than no job.

Another suggestion i have is each position needs to be looked at and see how important each position is. This would include everything from teachers aides to assistants to the superintendent. My opinion is that the most important people are the those who work one on one with the students... especially the ones who have special needs. Those individuals arent paid anywhere near their worth.

One more suggestion i have is to do away with the alternative school. If a student is a problem, deal with them at their individual schools. Do like they did when a lot of us older folks were in school, put them in a room segregated from the rest of the students and give them choice of doing their work or remaining in isolation.
NoIdea
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February 10, 2013
A ton of money is wasted on the alternative school. The problem is the guarantee of an education. Once someone is 14 or 15 and refuses to abide by the rules continuously and seeks to do nothing but hinder others' education, they should be expelled.

Pay cuts may be in order, but ridding the system of dead weight should occur first. Even the most ardent of the teachers on here have admitted they are bloated personnel wise.

revolvolution1
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February 11, 2013
@Bevans1974 I agree that everyone should take a pay cut to save jobs. But the fact is, teachers have taken pay cuts for 4 years. Next year teachers are giving up 10 days of pay. Most principals will likely lose a month of pay. How much more can they be cut!?

Politicians in Atlanta (the ones who keep cutting funding) don't seem to be taking pay cuts!
snapshots
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February 12, 2013
Really? Revolvolution1.. look up the pay of our people in Atlanta and then think again. They don't make that much. I believe pay is less that $18,000 per year.

No one wants more taxes because pay is stagnant. The economy is still tanked and reality is staring us in the face. It is well past the time to make nasty cuts. We'll just have to see how things work out.
Parapro12
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February 10, 2013
I am truly disgusted by the comments that the RNT is allowing on here. Both of these superintendent tried to do their best. it is obvious there are some financial situations that Dr. McDaniel has had to deal with. I am sure he is taking no delight and giving people a pink slip. I am sure doctor Plunkett did the very best she could as superintendent. The facts are there. the school system has to deal with their financial situation now. I do not know why a person posting on this site would bring a person's family or bring up church into a conversation about school finances. Dr. McDaniel is the superintendent now. He is making tough decisions. Not everyone is going to like decisions he makes just like some did not like Dr. Plunkett decisions. But to come on this site and make false accusations is not doing anyone any good. If a person is going to make challenging statements, back them up with the source or person the information came from.
tullock
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February 10, 2013
For your sake, I hope the RIF is not based on a writing exam.
ddbop
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February 10, 2013
once again before i go to bed...sunday school is early in the morning at my Baptist church...where does Dr.McDaniel go to church. I heard that he has not seen family in 25 years...sounds like he really fits in our community, doesn't it?

Let's get rid of Dr. McDaniel and get someone who has values like the rest of us.
besmarterthanthat
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February 10, 2013
Wow, ddbop! You must not pay attention while you are in church. Try listening while you're there.

I don't know Dr. McDaniel, and I am not a Floyd County employee; but I have been RIF'd before based on the "last one hired, first one fired" principle. It seems as if he is doing the best he can with a tough situation. When a teacher receives notice Tuesday, it isn't going to matter whose fault it is. What the RIF'd teacher needs is a good support system that helps him/her look forward and realize just because it isn't part of OUR plan, that doesn't mean it isn't part of HIS plan. I would have never left my job, but it turned out to be a wonderful thing for me and my family. You won't see that right away, but wasting time blaming things beyond your control is such a waste of time and effort.

So, ddbop, while you are sitting in church, why not pray for peace beyond understanding and HIS will to come to pass in the lives of everyone involved?

Soon to be RIF'd teachers: it's going to be okay.

Teachers who keep your jobs: Be sincerely grateful.

Dr. McDaniel: ignore the ddbops.
coosatown
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February 10, 2013
ddbop, please post the name of your church, so I can avoid it like the plague.
PalominoGold
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February 10, 2013
besmarterthanthat: re your comment to the RIFed employees about "it will be okay"-maybe it won't be okay and they know it. There are still many teachers who were RIFed from Cobb, Rome, and Bartow 3 years ago and they're still looking for teaching jobs through no fault of their own. Some are subbing in desperation and others are still stuck in the low-level jobs they took out of desperation.

Many have advanced degrees and they can only sit back and watch as the schools only hire recent graduates because they're cheap.

Please don't try to gloss over the pain that comes from RIFs. Many lives will never be the same.
besmarterthanthat
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February 10, 2013
PalominoGold, it's not my intent to gloss over anything. I'm just pointing out that while everyone is pointing fingers, on Tuesday people will be RIF'd and finger-pointing is not going to help them. They need a support system...someone to tell them it's going to work out. Maybe not on their timetable, maybe not the way they originally thought; but it will work out.

I don't mean to sound all lollipops and rainbows. I was just trying to offer a little perspective from someone who has been there and can say God works in mysterious ways. I also have an advanced degree. I do understand. Look at it as proof that the person is intelligent and possesses the perseverance to find a way to make it through this. Maybe their lives won't be the same: maybe they will end up better.
PalominoGold
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February 10, 2013
@Besmarter: I'm glad that being RIFed has worked out for you. I, however, know of several RIFed teachers who ended up having nervous breakdowns within the year and others whose lives have been downgraded horribly. Most can't move from NW Georgia and really can't reinvent themselves. Many looked desperately for a way that God might be showing them to do that but it just hasn't worked out. Very, very rarely is a RIF a good thing; I can only think of one teacher whose life became measurable better.
wheninrome
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February 10, 2013
Palomino,

The point that a few of us are trying to make is that one's perspective on this situation is driven by his proximity to the problem. I have a child beginning Pre-K this year. To me, the RIF creates an environment of the best teachers reorganized to teach within their expertise. It is a very positive thing in my eyes.

Your perspective relates to the RIF'd. BeSmarterThanThat has been there as a victim of the RIF, or a similar situation. You look ahead with fear for the unemployed teachers based on the bad experiences of others you've witnessed who have lost their teaching positions. Though BeSmarter hasn't stated whether he is in a "better" position, per se, he brings light to the fact that they will get through it; something I'm sure he had to tell himself while dealing with this very thing in the past.

One will do for his/her family what one has to do to ensure their survival. That's the most important thing to remember. If that means moving away, it will happen. If it means staying, then so be it. Regardless, I think BeSmarter is simply trying to funnel the spirit of 2Pac when he said, "Keep Ya Head Up."
besmarterthanthat
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February 10, 2013
@Palomino, thanks, I have been blessed! Losing your job sucks...no way to sugarcoat that. If you plan on your life falling apart because of it though, you will probably be successful. Why not plan on surviving?
besmarterthanthat
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February 10, 2013
wheninrome,

Precisely! I'm funneling the spirit.

I will add this. Good teachers, in my experience, are multi-talented and have multiple interests. If you (RIF'd folks) don't find another teaching position, pursue another talent. Don't wallow in negativity. (Do not plan your nervous breakdown!) Make a plan. Land on your feet. You know you have other abilities...teachers are like that! And, oh yeah, keep ya head up!
PalominoGold
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February 10, 2013
besmarter and wheninrome: I do know this from the viewpoint of the RIFed. I taught high school in an elective field and I was RIFed with a very large group (my whole field was dropped). Although many of us were also certified in core areas, we have found that principals are reluctant to hire a formerly RIFed teacher, even though we can provide them with our perfect evaluations and even recommendations. Once tainted, always tainted. Those few of our group who were able to move did. Some looked into new careers but in our district, most who were dumped were over 40 and it just wasn't financially feasible.

When a friend of mine saw my posts here, she knew who I was and called to say that a third teacher we knew had had a nervous breakdown. I wish I could be all rah-rah, you'll find a silver lining, but there hasn't been one for any of my RIF group.
ddbop
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February 10, 2013
all of you McDaniel fans might want to check out the new thread under Dr. McDaniel's latest. Can he make a decision? Seems to me like he is depending on poor Tim Hensley who really is a great person to do his dirty work. McDaniel is probably trying to get his own kids out of trouble. I have heard that they are real ball game in themselves.

I spent a lot of time and effort in volunteering for the school system where my kids went and I will defend what Dr. Plunkett did for our community and our school system. I challenge the rest of you to do the same. This is not how a charter system operates. If you were on a charter advisory at a local school, speak up and admit that you had no say in what is going on. Just for the record, the Floyd County School system received over a million dollars a year extra from the state because they shared power with their community. I am on a local school governance team and i read about all of this in the news paper.l
roaminginrome
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February 09, 2013
For several days now I have read these posts that accuse this one and that one. I am not an employee school system or any other school system. but I am very active in this community and I hear a lot of things. I also served as a community member on the charter and career academy committees.

I am sure that many of you have made comments not because you care one way or the other about the decision of the board but to get even with Dr. Plunkett because you did not like the cuts that she made when she inherited a budget in excess of $100,000,000 at a time shortly before budget cuts from the state started coming almost daily. She eliminated some high level positions in central office and tackled some issues in the school system that had been ignored for years because nobody wanted to touch them for fear of retaliation from the good old boys. By the way some of those good old boys were drawing down salaries in the county office of over 160K. you might remember Dr. Bob Puckett. Some of you probably did not like it when she did away with a retirement payoff benefit that was costing the system over a half a million dollars a year to pay people for coming to work. And I know you did not like it when she eliminated positions like graduation coaches after the state stopped funding them. From what I understand, she did not bring back quite a few bad teachers to the system and did not use a Reduction in Force as her excuse. But one thing I always heard her say was that she had 2 priorities and they were to keep good people in our community working and to keep good education going in our schools.

The board and Dr. McDaniel didn't bother to mention in their presentation on Tuesday that she cut over 10 million dollars of spending without negatively affecting an already sad unemployment in this county and while still maintaining a very successful school system with high achievement.

As for her pay, she earned it everyday having to put up with some of the idiots in this town. and made a lot less than the previous superintendent. If you are really concerned about her retirement reasons, maybe you should visit Redmond Hospital because that's where her mother is right now in critical condition. I think she said at the board meeting when she retired that she wanted to spend time with her family. More people should do that.

While you are looking back at the board minutes that Question20 mentioned please also look at how many times the same board that is allowing this to happen also praised Dr. Plunkett for her good management of budget with no layoffs. If you ever heard Dr.McDaniel speak he always praised Dr. Plunkett for her vision and referred to her as his mentor.

The matter is simple. Her spending priorities were different from Dr. McDaniels. Dr. Plunkett's were in the classroom with students. Dr. McDaniel's priorities are in having a big reserve sitting in the bank.

The other fact of the matter is that the superintendent can do only what the board will let him or her do and having heard many say that not every board member wanted Dr. McDaniel, think for yourself what some of them may be doing.

If the board paid for a year of service for Dr. Plunkett, good for them. Voluntarily she took additional pay cuts. If the board was not happy with the job she was doing why did they wait for 6 months to hire her replacement and then hired a person they thought she had trained well.

Question20, you suggested that a man could do a job better than a woman. That sounds a bit like you are trying to make up for some inadequacy you have as a man by bashing a woman. By the way, I am male and not female and I don't have to put down the opposite sex to make myself feel like more of a man.

Little people do little petty things.
chrishardin
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February 09, 2013
Plunkett couldn't make the hard decision to let people go. She has been quoted as saying she knew what it was like for a spouse to lose a job. The problem is she knew the system didn't need be hiring people but she continued to fill position vacated by retirements and employees leaving the system. Rumor has she left the ending balance in such bad shape, Mcdaniel almost had to temporarily borrow money in November. I've noticed a lot of promotions in Floyd Co tied to Plunketts friends from her high school days. Yes, she did some very good things for FCS. She also built a bohemoth system full of programs that eere bleeding the system dry. Enter Mcdaniel. He didn't get a period to learn the ropes of the job. He was handed a financial situation that had to be dealt with immediately. My feeling is Plunkett saw this run away train coming and got out before she had to make the tough decisions: letting people go and closing programs she started or pushed

ddbop
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February 09, 2013
Mr. or Ms. ChrisHardin It sounds like you have a real vendetta against Dr Plunkett. Could it be that you are one of those people who didn't do their job and she fired? Maybe you are one whose wife was fired for not doing her job. You seem to know a lot about what was going on in Floyd County Schools. Maybe you were One who did not get to keep your big part time salary.Maybe you are one of the the plants on here that Dr. McDaniel has required to make comments that make Dr. Plunkett look bad and make him look good. He has threatened everyone in the county office with losing their jobs. Yes, I heard her say that she had experienced job loss and I respected her for saying that. Would you like to get an open records request to see what kind of administrative salaries are in the system that she had planned to cut? I don't think so because you are probably one of the CHIEF administrators who would have been tagged to lose a chuck of your big salary that you earned while you were playing golf on taxpayers time. And Mr or Ms Hardin (or whatever your name is) what programs that obviously were good for students (check the web for information) would you like to cut. If you had not lost your own family owned business outside of education due to poor management you would not have the time to try to discredit good people in this community.
ddbop
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February 09, 2013
I think that Tony Bethune was one of McDaniels yes men and I know that Knox Wilson is one is his yes men. Who did Dr. Plunkett promote from her high school days? Because even though I am not from Rome, I know a lot of people who are . And I will ask around to see who of her high school friends received big promotions. I will report back soon.
NoFreakinWay
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February 09, 2013
Which is it?

“Due to the complexity and legality of the RIF plan, Principals will not identify or have input in identifying those employees to the RIF or reassigned.” found at http://matchbin-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/public/sites/274/assets/3GPM_RIFplan.pdf

Or

“McDaniel said he is not yet sure how many employees would be affected, but school principals will have a list of their selected employees on Tuesday.” found at http://rn-t.com/view/full_story/21669783/article-McDaniel-spells-out-RIF-goals-?instance=home_news_lead

Again, which is it?
NoFreakinWay
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February 09, 2013
McDaniel's plan says there would be legal implications if principals made the selections, but today's story plainly says he's waiting on their lists. I bet many attorneys are watching this story too.
inthetrenches
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February 09, 2013
It is both...the principals have no input in the decision of who will be cut but on Tuesday they will receive, from Dr. McDaniel, the lists of RIF'd employees in their schools. The principals will then notify those employees. This is clearly explained on pg. 19 of the RIF Plan.
wheninrome
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February 08, 2013
I have a child entering Pre-K this year, so I can't say that I have a bond with any teacher who may be RIF'd or relocated. As such, my observations are more objective and I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has really paid attention to what is happening.

A few (emotionless)facts:

Reducing the pay of McDaniels or even more administrators does not solve the problem.

If you had McDaniels' educational background and resume, you'd be pretty p[ssed if someone said you were not worth your pay. The simple truth is that he's worth it. When the dust settles, he may not have done a bang up job as we all hope he does, but his pay is in line with his background and experience. Move on.

For these next two emotionless facts, let's bring to front of mind that bettering our children's education is the PRIMARY goal.

Firing the admins, teachers, support staff, or janitors that received UNSATISFACTORY reviews recently is exactly what should happen.

Firing those who have received LESS than satisfactory reviews consecutively is saying that our school system expects progress and improvement. Again, not a problem in my eyes.

Removing the principal from these decisions is brilliant on many levels. He/she will remain neutral in the process and be able to lead his reworked staff as both a survivor, and an administrator. High morale and a team mentality may actually be a part of our schools again.

I could go on and on, but if any reader of this little blurb has ever been a member of a corporate team who has dealt with budgets and their constraints, you likely know that FCS is simply getting "lean and mean." Cut the fat, spend less, get better quality from your work force.

I'm completely understanding of the very emotional folks who will no longer be gainfully employed, and not everyone who gets RIF'd will be an "unsavory" employee because there are definitely situations in this plan where a great, new teacher could slip through the cracks. But again, your child's education will be better.

This is one of the most transparent moves I've seen by government, or by a business for that matter. In light of lost jobs, it will take a while for the "good" to soak in for many - not because they aren't smart enough to see it, but because it's often hard to see the forest through the trees.

inthetrenches
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February 09, 2013
Well said and most 'on-target' post yet!
init4$ha
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February 09, 2013
Well said. If folks(teachers/parapros/custodians/clerks/secretaries, etc.) have been doing their jobs well and receiving postive evaluations, then they probably don't have to worry about their name being on the RIF list.

I agree with you whole-heartedly...if there are teachers in the classroom who are not measuring up then they don't need to be teaching our children.
PalominoGold
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February 10, 2013
One group I feel badly for:the outstanding teachers who will be RIFed for some reason other than poor performance, now that a big announcement has been made about getting rid of the poor performers. Even if they received all satisfactories for years on their evaluations, they will be forever branded along with the rest of the crowd. Furthermore, there are many districts who will not hire a RIFed employee from another district because MAYBE they were RIFed for poor performance.
question20
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February 08, 2013
My question is: Did the board really buy back 3-5 years so Dr. plunkett could retire and get her 30 years in Georgia? She was making $200,OO0 a year and they are going to buy her years back? When all other teachers that have to buy back years have to pay out of there own pockets. Why could'nt she? If she cared about the teachers like she said she did, she wouldn't have let the board do that. She retired b/c she knew what was about to happen, she knew that Floyd co. was way over staffed and knew that she was going to have to "RIF" teachers, so she wiped her hands clean and handed it to a man to do it. Go to www.floydboe.net and click on eboard to read through the minutes and motions passed by the board of education.
Opinionated85
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February 08, 2013
A lot of things are changing and I believe this is just the beginning of things to come. We as parents want what is going to best for our children. And I do not feel that this is "best". What is significant is knowing that there are people who have retired and yet the board has "created" postions for them over at the central office. What is even more amazing is how much the superintendent makes. (check out his pay along with others @ http://www.open.georgia.gov/sta/viewMain.aud)

I am just as upset as the next person, that it has come down to this b/c truth of the matter is there is a ton of different things they could be doing. One being get the retired people off their payroll completely. Quit creating positions for these people. Yes one would be Tony Bethune, the retired principal of Model Elementary who has a current position @ central office. Another is the fact that some schools have not 1 but 2 assistant principals. Then you also have several different people working in each school's office. 2 secretarys and a registration clerk. Now I'm more than positive there really isn't a need for 2 secretarys, especially since everytime I go into my child's school they are standing around gossiping up a storm. I think one would be sufficient for now while our school system tries it's hardest to rebuild to what it once was. So why not start with demanding the Superintendent take a deep paycut. I think he could live pretty comfortably on 115,000 a year possibly even less. How much are we paying the board members? how about cutting their salaries as well. The answer is simple the superintendent nor the board has even thought of cutting the retired people off their payrolls nor have they even thought to cut some of their own salaries in order to provide the best education that they possibly can to our children. If they would think about taking a cut in their own pay it would save jobs. It's all about the how much money they can put into their own pockets. It's ridiculous and I really hope that people wise up and lets take a stand. Flood the county office with your opinions. Let them know that we are not going to take anything less than what our children deserve. Stand up and quit complaining. Show up at the next board meeting and DEMAND to be heard. Lets rattle their cages and lets let them know that we will be heard and that we will no longer sit aside while they single handedly ruin the education system here in Floyd County. If we as a community and as a whole stand together what choice will they have but to re evaluate thier so called plan. Lets let them know that if this is what they do as they intend to do it that they will not be put back into this position when it comes time to vote. It's not about being republican or democrat anymore. It's about who is messing with your child's education and who is messing with your money!! I wrote Governor Deal and he sent an email back assuring me teacher's jobs wouldn't be cut. He said that he was in fact giving so much money to school systems to ensure that wouldn't happen and that he trusted every school system to do what is right with the money. So if he is telling the truth and has in fact given money to our school system, I have to ask myself what did our board do with this money? I have to ask do they have the best interest of our school children or do they have theirselves best interest at heart? I am deeply saddened that I helped to vote a few of these men in but can honestly say I won't make that mistake twice.
neal1945
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February 08, 2013
I agree, although being a retired educator I have worked for the county at one point after retirement. However, I agree that just because the retirees can legally teach again while receiving their retirement, because of this I believe they should leave their positions for the good of the county and the students.
Parapro12
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February 08, 2013
Opinion

1. Tony Bethune is not retired. I'm sure he wishes he was

2. Read the RIF plan. 49% people are being eliminate, asst principals are being reduced, school support staff is being reduced, Board members make $300 a month, Governor Deal has NOT committed additional money to education. If he emailed this to you, I would suggest you send it to the RNT and this would perhaps mark the end of Deals term as Governor.

I think Dr. McDaniel was handed a tough situation, and he is doing all he can to assure the financial security of Floyd County Schools. We are overstaffed. Plain and simple. My husband works for a corporation in Atlanta. You are a number there. If they are overstaffed or not meeting their goals, people are given pink slips and there is no local paper forum to complain to. There is no form of entitlement or people talking of storming the CEO's office.

This is a financially decision. I believe all situations were examined. I believe this is the only available solution for overstaffing. I haven't heard any other creditable solutions besides cut the Superintendent's salary. We re talking about a $87 million budget and people re thinking $15,000 will make a dent?
Opinionated85
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February 09, 2013
Paraprofessional 12. There are quite a few people who are retired and who have been created a position. If Bethune is not retired there are several people at the county office highly misinformed. I know cutting his pay isn't going to fix the problem but it cans be some of our teachers their job and to me and to a lot of other parents our teachers are more important than the superintendent simply because he does not work hands on with our students. As for deals letter it has been emailed. I am hoping to get deal out of office as I do not like someone who messes with my child's education. Exactly why I plan to change the way I vote for the board members and hope that other will open their eyes as well. My thing along with others is if this man truly cared about our students and his staff he would say I know it won't help much but if we trimmed my pay here and trimmed the board members pay there we may not be able to save every job but we could save some. Then if principals who make well over 10000 would agree to a pay reduction in order to save some of their staff that would open up a few other jobs. And as far as your husband working for a corporation well I don't see why you would even bring that up bc I don't see how that affects our children's education at all and this whole situation is about our children's education.
RoyE
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February 08, 2013
Posted 45 minutes ago, "Rome, Floyd County discuss SPLOST process." The kicker is they have yet to decide on a project, or projects to spend the SPLOST money on. They want money, but they have yet to figure out what it's needed for!!

I say if these clowns should all be voted out of office if they ask for a SPLOST for anything other than to benefit the children, and BOE employees slated to be RIF'd.
chrishardin
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February 08, 2013
Roy, from what I understand, a SPLOST can not be used for salaries. They are not going to use a ESPLOST for paperclips. Ask the people in Coosa what is at stake in this SPLOST. An ESPLOST is different than a government SPLOST. Our Chamber is pushing another SPLOST. They are trying to get the city and county commissions to agree to a taxpayer funded Tennis Center of Georgia. That's also being backed by Katie Dempsey.

ESPLOST money I've seen in Floyd County has been 2 high schools, middle schools, elementary school, technology. The ESPLOST are audit frequently and available to review through open records.
chrishardin
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February 07, 2013
I would like to hear alternative plans like the one to cut 5% of everyone's pay. Let's hear factual plans instead of the same old bs of cut all those high salaries. These comments of $10,000 desks, kickbacks, channel 5 and 2 are rediculous. The rantings of how schools used to be ran are rediculous. Times are different. Education and forms of teaching have changed. Technology has changed. The cost to educate has changed. Expectations of education have changed. Society moves at a faster pace and is more demanding.
NoIdea
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February 07, 2013
This kind of thing is actually coming at all levels of government. It's a large combination of things and is different at every level, but to keep it short:

A population that demands excessively low taxes with excessively high levels of service

combined with

A government willing to punish the successful through high taxes, while rewarding the useless through free food, phones and housing

combined with

ignorant, pajama wearing inbreds being elected to office

combined with

"I'm voting for the one that gives me the most" voters.

And we get what we deserve. You wait and see. This is tip of the iceberg.
init4$ha
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February 07, 2013
It is so easy to sit back and pass judgement. Do you know all the facts? How many of you were in the budget meetings? Do you think the decisions were made lightly or on a whim? Do you think that the budget got into the mess it's in in the two short MONTHS that Dr. McDaniel has been in the Superintendent's position?

Do you think that the principals wouldn't want to put friends/relatives ("cronyism") first when making the choice of what positions to cut? Do you think that is possibly what has happened in the past and that's the reason the budget is in trouble? (and not only at the school level) The decision being taken away at the school level was a very wise choice. Of course principals are going to be emotional and make emotional choices after working with some of their folks for years. Using evaluations and other markers will level the playing field. It will also take the weight of deciding who must be let go off the principal's shoulders. Would you want the job of making all of these MAJOR decisions knowing that state and federal entities were breathing down your neck to get the budget where it needs to be or else? Do you, or have you ever had to, deal with the government and know how they work? They do not allow much wiggle room.

What decisions would you make that would be so different? Would your decisions be pleasing to everyone and make them all happy? Do you think that major companies show as much compassion as the FCBOE when slashing their budgets? FACT: NO. Plants, mills, and other big corporations take the cowardly route and send their employees a letter, effective immediately, in the mail. FCBOE has to be run as a company, but the difference is that the superintendent and board members have a heart. They have children, grandchildren, nieces, and nephews in Floyd County Schools. Their families will be impacted along with everyone else.

Some of the comments list Central Office personnel that make over 80k per year...please do your research. Many of those listed have retired. The income listed in public records didn't include the furlough/reduced work days. The 9-3 Central Office work day timeframe is laughable. Those administrators seen coming in late or leaving early may have had an early meeting or had to leave early to attend a meeting or workshop. They may have been at your child's school reading to a classroom or handling a discipline problem. Most of the administrators have responsibilities outside the Central Office. If those people sat in their offices all day, never visiting schools, then someone would complain that they weren't doing their job. Danged if you do, danged if you don't.

Again, could you make decisions that would make everyone happy? If you can, then you might want to pass some of your wisdom on to the FCBOE instead of passing judgement so freely. Everyone has the right to voice their opinion, but please make the opinions based on facts instead of wearing your heart on your sleeve and slamming the folks who are trying to make wise decisions for our children.

Something everyone could do not only for our schools but the entire country is to pray. FCBOE is not in the budget crises by themselves and they certainly didn't create it.
j02
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February 07, 2013
I see, at most, 5 people from that list that have retired, and they more than likely left on or immediately before November 30, 2012 (to keep a cost of living raise or something of the sort on their retirement). I do agree with a lot you mentioned otherwise! I, for one, am glad the principals do not have the authority to say who stays and who goes. I do feel that cronyism would come in to play if they did get to choose. I also think that Dr. McDaniel is taking a lot of flack for something he didn't cause. It is a terrible situation, and I'm one that could lose my job in this RIF. I strongly believe that citizens of Rome and Floyd county should contact our representatives and senators because they're the ones that get the say-so in cutting funding.
NoFreakinWay
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February 07, 2013
EVERYONE PLEASE READ THIS!!

I did a little math and came up with my own plan. Let's see who agrees with me.

Based on the 2012 figures, 2013 is a mystery until it is published, the total payroll for Floyd County Schools is roughly $70 million. If all employees took a 5% paycut, that would save about $3.5 million and many, many jobs.

This seems like such a simple solution, but is it really? Hmmm.

If you make 100,000 per year and everyone gets a 5% pay increase, you will gain an extra 5,000 per year. Yay!

If you make 100,000 per year and a 5% pay decrease is proposed, you lose nothing because the obvious solution is to fire people instead of taking a paycut. Yay!

If you people truly care about your staff and their families, you will immediately drop the RIF and switch to a RIP (reduction in pay).

If you agree with this plan, you better speak up. I hope a line is drawn in the sand and these people are called to the carpet. We don't need more unemployed in Rome while others go unscathed.

Many thanks to RN-T for providing this forum.
chrishardin
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February 07, 2013
The point is Floyd County Schools has too many employees. In a perfect world everyone would take a pay cut. But in reality, there are those that will refuse. They will tie the system up in legal fees. Floyd County has to cut pisitions bc it is overstaffed and they cannot meet their financial obligations.
inthetrenches
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February 07, 2013
Every employee in the system will have 10 furlough days next year which is the equivalent to a 5% pay cut.

I am a FCBOE teacher and I fully support Dr. McDaniel's and the BOE RIF plan, not because I want people to lose their jobs but because the plan, as outlined in specific details, is as fair as it can possibly be. There is no clean sweep of any category such as parapros, art or music teachers, counselors, etc. as other systems have done. Instead, those who will be RIF'd first are those at all levels who have received unsatisfactory evaluations, which is as it should be. Most likely, all employees who are doing their jobs satisfactorily have nothing to worry about, or at least nothing to worry about. They will have a job for the next year.

The problem isn't Dr. McDaniel. It isn't the school board. The problem is Georgia's legislators who view education funding as unimportant because they know the school systems and teachers will do whatever is necessary to stay afloat and provide more with less, unlike their pet projects and business interests.

chrishardin
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February 07, 2013
Bingo inthetrenches
NoFreakinWay
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February 08, 2013
Inthetrenches, you sound overly confident that your job is not going to be cut. How would you feel if it was? Do you know anything else but teaching? If that becomes your fate, where would you go and what would you do? What if you were a single income family and had children to support?

These are tough times and all you have to offer is a selfish, "Every employee in the system will have 10 furlough days next year which is the equivalent to a 5% pay cut." I’m not talking about furlough days, I mean a real 5% rate of pay decrease.

You REALLY wouldn't give up an extra 5% to save the jobs of people you have worked with for years? You know, now that I think about it, I'm certain that you wouldn't.

When your "friends" and co-workers are cut, will you at least have the decency to help them carry boxes out to the car?

Doubtful. Selfish. Shameful.
inthetrenches
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February 08, 2013
Actually, NoFreakinWay, you are way off in your remarks judging me, my character, and my post. In no way did I state or imply I wouldn't be willing to take an additional cut in pay for the betterment of FCBOE. An additional 5%, as you have proposed, on top of the 10 furlough days for 2013-14, would be an overall 10% cut, which I would more than willingly accept if it meant everyone who does their job well could keep it.



On the other hand, regardless of the tough financial issues of the school system (or any other business, public or private), employees who are just status-quo, showing up and doing the bare mimimum just for a paycheck should be weeded out. In the school system, the "dead weight" prevents highly qualified and motivated candidates from securing positions. I'm not talking about someone who perhaps scored less than proficient in one category...no one is perfect, but would you want someone who received unsatisfactory evaluations teaching your children? Would you want a doctor who performed unsatisfactorily treating you or your family? Would you want to be a passenger on a plane piloted by an unsatisfactory pilot? Or, would you think they should NOT be in those positions at all? It really has nothing to do with whether there is or isn't money in the coffers to pay the salaries...when an employee's performance is substandard, the employer is getting ripped off, and in the case of public institutions, the taxpayers themselves are getting ripped off.

As for your question about whether I know anything other than teaching...yes, as a matter of fact, I do. I left a much more lucrative profession to teach and it took me almost 10 years to reach the salary I gave up in order to teach.

How would I feel if I am one of the employees who is cut? I would certainly be devastated, but if I had received unsatisfactory evaluations which led to that event, I would also do some deep soul searching and self-evaluation of what MY part was in the decision to let me go. I am not overly confident that my position is immune from changes as a result of the RIF, but I do not fear I will be unemployed because if the tiers outlined specifically in Dr. McDaniel's plan are followed, I am not in the category of those who are in jeopardy. I have never received anything less than proficient or outstanding in my evaluations...not because I am some super teacher or have any personal friendship or connection to anyone with the authority to remove me from my position, but simply because I take my job seriously, seeking help when I need it from those who have more knowledge and expertise than I have. I do not, and never have, taken it for granted or felt that because I have "tenure" I could slack off in my responsibilities, both to the children I teach or to the taxpayers who ultimately foot the bill for my salary. To the very best of my abilities, I do the job I was hired to do.

As for your single income comment...been there, too, and during those years, I probably gave even more of my time and effort to my job. Again, if you want to make sure you will be able to keep your job, regardless of the economy or your place of employment...make sure you give it your best and not just the bare minimum. Sometimes, that may not ensure continued employment when RIF is a necessity, but you can bet you will be in better standing and more likely to miss the cuts than those whose performances are unsatisfactory.

While I have, fortunately, never lost my job in any field, my husband has more than once, not because of bad evaluations, but because of across the board cuts without regard to job performance, years on the job, or any other factor other than being in a position deemed by outside consultants as no longer needed. What did we do? We cut back to the bare bones until he found another job. Was it tough? Absolutely. Was it painful? Absolutely. Do I feel for anyone who loses his/her job? Absolutely, particularly those who find themselves unemployed even though they had been good employees. That, my friend, is what Dr. McDaniel and the FCBOE is trying to avoid by outlining the specific criteria by which the cuts will be made...nothing across the board, but beginning with those who probably should have lost their jobs already due to not being up to par. Most likely, anyone in the 'satisfactory' category will be safe from the cuts...not a guarantee, but highly likely. This doesn't mean we will all be in the same position or schools, or even at the same pay level, but we will still, hopefully, be employed.

BTW...your research of the FCBOE salaries is old news...that has been available for many years for all state employees. However, as someone already pointed out, it isn't necessarily accurate. My salary is posted as almost $6000 more than I made last year and in no way lines up with my W-2. Wish I had made what the state says I did but maybe they forgot to subtract the furlough deductions. Regardless, I am grateful for my job, and will continue to do it as I am paid to do, assuming I miss the cuts.

anabelle_lee
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February 07, 2013
Very informative posts. I wish you would tell us who made that comment commonsense. For the one that said that Rome is too small for two school districts, well there used to be a lot more small community schools in this county with very little money a lot more accountability and competence
Lbarn20
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February 07, 2013
Only $494,000 cut from "general administration"! Really? The administrative cuts will again come from the schools principals, people working with your children. Look at the county website at where all the money goes. There are 90 office employees listed with a title. There are too many people making in excess of $100,000, excluding benefits. How many of these people are being cut? This should have been the first place! Everyone has an assistant, a $10,000 desk (accurate information), and they all roll in after 9 am and leave at 3. Furthermore, a lot of these so called calculations are coming from one county employee who "read" a book on how to calculate teacher to student ratios. I read a book on how to perform surgery, anyone want a cheap heart transplant? The more upsetting issue is that principals have no say on what positions to let go. Cuts will be determined by the county office??? What? That's a lot of responsibility considering these same individuals are not on the ground floor to set whats really going on. Lastly, one newer board member has been remarking in the community, "I don't feel a bit sorry for teachers getting pink slips, I got one at Berry." Hope your your use to it because as an elected position, it may not be your last pink slip. I guess you didn't plan on staying long, just long enough to crush our system. Floyd County citizens, do something!!!! Get on the phone! Call the ATL news, see your elected officials, and call the county office better yet go by there! Just wait until 9....
NoIdea
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February 07, 2013
Call the Atlanta news....LOL
mott49
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February 10, 2013
AMEN Lbarn20, you hit the nail on the head.
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