Immigration discussion gets heated during panel
by Lydia Senn, staff writer
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Society for Human Resource Managers holds immigration panel
Society for Human Resource Managers holds immigration panel
Panelist Marcella Romero-Langlois (middle), a judicial interpreter, and Floyd County Sheriff’s Chief Deputy Tom Caldwell (right) of the Floyd County Sheriff’s Office listen to State Rep. Katie Dempsey, R-Rome, speak Tuesday during an immigration law panel discussion. The discussion took place during the Greater Rome Society for Human Resource Management Chapter meeting conducted at Coosa Country Club. (Daniel Varnado / Rome News-Tribune)
Panelist Marcella Romero-Langlois (middle), a judicial interpreter, and Floyd County Sheriff’s Chief Deputy Tom Caldwell (right) of the Floyd County Sheriff’s Office listen to State Rep. Katie Dempsey, R-Rome, speak Tuesday during an immigration law panel discussion. The discussion took place during the Greater Rome Society for Human Resource Management Chapter meeting conducted at Coosa Country Club. (Daniel Varnado / Rome News-Tribune)
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Marcella Romero-Langlois (middle) talks with Greater Rome SHRM’s Sandra McCain (right) at Tuesday’s panel discussion on Immigration Law as Jerry Gonzalez, executive director of the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials (far left), looks on. (Daniel Varnado / Rome News-Tribune)
Marcella Romero-Langlois (middle) talks with Greater Rome SHRM’s Sandra McCain (right) at Tuesday’s panel discussion on Immigration Law as Jerry Gonzalez, executive director of the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials (far left), looks on. (Daniel Varnado / Rome News-Tribune)
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What was supposed to be an informative discussion about immigration turned heated Tuesday in Rome.

The Society for Human Resource Management hosted an immigration law panel discussion that included state Rep. Katie Dempsey, R-Rome, Floyd County Sheriff Chief Deputy Tom Caldwell and judicial interpreter Marcella Langlois. The three answered questions about the state’s immigration law signed by Gov. Nathan Deal earlier this year.

Things took an awkward turn when panel moderator Sandra McCain had to ask one audience member to be respectful of those on the panel.

Jerry Gonzalez, executive director of Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials, had originally been asked to be a part of the panel, before being “uninvited.”

“I find that extremely rude,” Gonzalez said from his table during the lunch meeting at Coosa Country Club.

McCain said after inviting Gonzalez, the SHRM thought a three-person panel would be more beneficial to the discussion.

“Mr. Gonzalez has his own ideas about the illegal immigration, and I think sometimes what happens is the immigration and the illegal immigration get thrown into the same pot, and they are very different things, obviously. And so Mr. Gonzalez represents a group of people that are very much involved and interested in immigration issues,” she said.

The panel was largely focused on employment issues surrounding the immigration law, such as the E-verify system now required for all businesses with more than 10 employees. The program is used to verify a potential employees immigration status.

“Our nation is a nation of laws. They should be acted on equally,” said Dempsey.

She emphasized that the system is intended to be used for new hires, not those already employed with an organization.

“If you are shoplifting you are breaking the law; if you enter the country illegal you are breaking the law,” Dempsey said.

Gonzalez, who began yelling at Dempsey when the meeting ended, was escorted from Coosa Country Club.

One attendee shouted: “Katie Dempsey is a great American hero.”

Langlois, a naturalized U.S. citizen who disagrees with much of the immigration law, voiced her concerns that the law targets those of one specific race.

“I went to get a business license the other day and I was asked for immigration papers. I haven’t been asked for immigration papers in 35 years,” Langlois said.

Langlois was cut off five times by McCain as she tried to answer questions.

McCain said she did feel Langlois’ opinion was adequately heard.

“We were trying to say focused,” McCain said. “This is basically an employment group, a human resources management group. We wanted to stay focused on the issues that were most relevant to these specific employers.”

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ernie20000
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November 13, 2011
Obama strikes again !!

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osted at 10:29 AM ET, 11/13/2011

Court: School can ban American flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo

By Valerie Strauss

A federal court judge ruled that officials at a California high school had a legal right to send home students wearing shirts showing the American flag on Cinco de Mayo because there was a reasonable fear that the images could lead to violence.

Chief U.S. District Judge James Ware of San Francisco ruled last week that it was not a violation of the freedom of speech for students at Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill to be ordered to turn their shirts with the American flag inside out or go home on May 5, 2010, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.Two students were sent home.

Ware cited past clashes between Mexican-American and Anglo students over clothing on the holiday, which is a celebration of Mexican heritage and in Mexico commemorates a Mexican army victory over the French in 1862. (It is not Mexican Independence Day.)

Students wearing the shirts had sued the Morgan Hill Unified School District on the grounds that their right to free expression had been violated as well as on discrimination because students wearing Mexican flag colors were not censored. Ware rejected both issues.
3isEnough
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November 10, 2011
Some education .... the Migrant Labor Act needs to be ruled un- Constitutional. This Act was put in pace by pressure from California growers looking for cheaper labor. Seemed like the WHITE PICKERS wanted to be (OMG) PAID FAIRLY for their work. The migrant labor is akin to modern day slavery. The same argument that 'no one to work' and 'we cant afford the high labor costs' were all used by FACTORIES when workers revolted for higher wages. Well, workers won. Factories paid more. And the economy THRIVED.
3isEnough
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November 10, 2011
END BIRTH RIGHT CITIZENSHIP! This will solve much of our troubles. Many 'developed countries' have ended this practice, as this in recent times has only led to abuse if the 'system'.
USAmerican100
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November 09, 2011
Since illegal immigration has benefited one race (Latinos)30 times more than all other races, of course enforcement will target this one race disproportionally. The people who oppose equal immigration through enforcement are the racists.
ernie20000
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November 09, 2011
JerryGonzalez

However, it seems that she and many within her leadership in the Legislature are afraid to be held accountable for the mess that they have created with HB87.

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Ms Dempsey, is being accountable, to the People that elected her, Citizens of Georgia and Citizens in Her District !!

Unlike you Jerry, BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR THE COUNTRY OF MEXICO !!
ArturoK
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November 09, 2011
Due to his solid history of advocating for Latino rights, Jerry Gonzalez was chosen to serve as the first executive director of the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials. At GALEO he is charged with developing a legislative agenda and directing programs that promote the involvement of the Latino/Hispanic community regardless of immigratin status in the legislative process. Before serving as the GALEO executive director, Gonzalez worked as a political campaign consultant and fundraiser for GALEO founder and Chair, former State Senator Sam Zamarripa (SD-36). In his fundraising capacities, he raised more than $50,000 in approximately one month for Senator Zamarripa, making Zamarripa the top Democratic State Senator in fundraising for the first contribution disclosure period in 2003.

Prior to working for Senator Zamarripa, Gonzalez was the legislative policy analyst for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund's Atlanta Regional Office. In his post, he was responsible for advocating legislation which adequately addressed the needs of the growing Southeast Latino population regardless of immigration legality. Gonzalez was instrumental in the formation of the Georgians for Safer Roads Coalition, a group that advocated for expanded access to driver's licenses regardless of immigration status. Gonzalez served as a key advocate for Latino rights during the 2003 Georgia legislative session by addressing the driver's license issue, and working towards greater access to voting for all Latinos. Gonzalez was also a part of a coalition to address racial profiling in Georgia and worked with legislators to reintroduce racial profiling legislation.

Gonzalez is a founder and the immediate past president of the Georgia Hispanic Network, Inc., a 501(c) 6 nonprofit professional development and networking organization initiated in 2001 for Hispanic professionals. Gonzalez, a Laredo, TX native, moved to Atlanta in 1996 for a position as a Field Support Engineer for Rockwell Automation of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. During that time, he was a member of the Human Rights Campaign, a national gay and lesbian civil rights organization. Through that involvement, he played a critical role in implementing a corporate non-discrimination policy at Rockwell that included sexual orientation.

Gonzalez's other civil rights advocacy has included presenting lectures on "The State of the Workplace for Gay and Lesbian Americans" at the National Society of Hispanic Professional Engineers' Symposium in Washington D.C. and Fresno, California. He is also a member of Georgia Equality.

Gonzalez has a history of political activism. As a previous member of the DeKalb County Democratic Party, he was the 2nd Vice Chair overseeing the Election Procedures, Campaign Research, and Voter Registration Committees.

Gonzalez received his B.S. in Mechanical Engineering from Texas A&M University in 1995 While at Texas A&M, he was actively involved with the Society of Mexican American Engineers and Scientists (MAES), where he initiated a community outreach program, which contacted more than 1,600 pre-college students to promote careers in science and engineering. Upon graduation, Gonzalez served on the MAES National Board of Directors as a Regional Vice President from 1995 until 1999. At Texas A&M University, he was a member of the Fightin' Texas Aggie Band (clarinet).

Jerry lives in Atlanta with his life partner and spouse of thirteen years, Ray, an established and practicing pediatrician, and their two dogs, Jake & Jenny.

LydiaSennn
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November 09, 2011
Mr. Gonzalez,

I am the reporter that covered the panel discussion yesterday. I would loved to have spoken with you after the meeting but you had left the premises before I was given the opportunity. I welcome you to call me at 706-290-5278 or email me directly at lsenn@rn-t.com
ernie20000
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November 09, 2011
SWAT teams dispatched as gun battle unfolds near Escobares

November 09, 2011 5:58 AM

Ildefonso Ortiz and Jared Taylor

The Monitor

ESCOBARES — Gunmen crossed the Rio Grande into the United States near a shootout between where the Mexican military and a group of gunmen was taking place.

Several area SWAT teams responded about 1:30 p.m. Tuesday to a ranch near Escobares, just across the U.S.-Mexico border, where a shootout broke out south of the Rio Grande.

The shootout reportedly began shortly after noon but details were not immediately available. Residents on the U.S. side reported seeing members of the U.S. Border Patrol and Starr County Sheriff’s Office securing the area near the border.

Border Patrol spokeswoman Rosalinda Huey said agents had been tracking a suspected drug load near La Rosita and pushed it back to Mexico....

ArturoK
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November 09, 2011
Gonzalez was likely uninvited because the organizers didn't originally invite him to the event on employment rules - maybe he was added due to suggestions from the translator who may have forgotton to mention that Gonzalez seperatist group demands an end to ALL enforcement of immigration laws and wants open borders.

And that a member of his board is an attorney who is on the lawsuit against HB 87 with the ACLU and various other groups opposed to enforcement. His group is suing the state - seems a serious conflict for this meeting to have included him.

Maybe they found out that Gonzalez is a former employee of a far-left, radical group calling itself the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF) which demands the right to vote for illegals and amnesty. The MALDEF founder, Mario Obledo, can be heard on internet audio from 1990's California radio hissing that "California is going to become a Hispanic state, we are going to take over the legislature. Anyone who doesn't like it ought to leave - they ought to go back to Europe." Jerry is a threatening, angry wanna-be "tough guy" who says English as the official language of the USA "would be an insult" to his culture.

Maybe they learned that Gonzalez had the Socialist Workers Party come to his 2003 group to help with trying to get Ga drivers licenses for illegals.

He has hysterically screamed at women legislators before, most recently before this, in the last legislative session, in the Capitol, at a state Senator from Gwinnett County who made the remark that Georgians should not have to pay for illegals on the floor of the Senate.

A devoted tribalist, Saul Alinksi radical, Jerry Gonzalez is not the kind of person who should be put on any panel focused on rational discussion of immigration enforcement.

Way to go Rep. Dempsey for your cool and calm logical actions in defense of the citizens and immigrants who obey and value the law! WAY TO GO TO THE PAPER FOR TELLING THE TRUTH! ATLANTA MEDIA ALWAYS COVERS UP FOR ANGRY JERRY!

Which is funnier, that arrogant Gonzalez lost his temper - again - in public or that he is now posting with complaints of being left out of the press attention he craves so badly?
ernie20000
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November 09, 2011
When Did "LATINO", BECOME A RACE ?!

When Did "MEXICAN", BECOME A RACE?!

When Did "ILLEGAL ALIEN", BECOME, LEGAL IMMIGRANTS?!

Has This Country Lost The Right To Control Who Comes And Stay In HERE?!

KATIE DEMPSEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB, WITH THIS ASININE, "PRO MEXICO" INVASION, MENTALLY !!

Continue To Talk About It !!

THEY WANT "YOU" TO STOP, TALKING THE TRUTH !!
WhisperontheWind
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November 09, 2011
My apologies to RNT, I see that Mr. Gonzales post is still there and I over looked it.
WhisperontheWind
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November 09, 2011
Interesting that the reply from Jerry Gonzales has been removed, I saw nothing objectionable in the way is was written, it was quite respectful. Is this the Rome News Tribune's way of squelching "Freedom of Speech".

I agree that once Mr. Gonzales was invited and took the time to come to Rome to be a part of the panel, he should have been allowed to participate. The panel seemed very disorganized in my opinion.

I do disagree with Mr. Gonzales that HB 87 has created the problem. The problem was created by people coming here illegally, employers hiring illegal labor and those who support illegal immigration. HB 87 was passed in order to help solve the problem of illegal immigration, help relieve Georgia of illegal labor and put Georgians and legal citizens back to work.

Had our immigration laws been enforced as promised from 1986 forward, we would not have the problem now.
cp66
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November 09, 2011
If you came into this country illegally then you did something wrong, it really doesn't matter when you get caught 5 days or 15 years, you are wrong. If you are asked for your immigration status then what is wrong with that, you tell them you are a citizen and give them a soc sec number and it's over and done with. On the other hand people need to realize there is no way your going get 10 to 15 million people to leave this country, it's not going to happen!! Lets figure out a way to close the borders and legalize the ones that are here.

Immigration is such an easy fix.

souixana
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November 09, 2011
IF it becomes UNPROFITABLE for business to hire them and UNPROFITABLE for landlords to house them, then yes, 15 million people WILL find a way to leave this country, probably the same way they got here. We wouldn't have to deport anybody. But as long as it remains profitable, they are here to stay with more on the way. And I say THIS to Ms Langlois who said:

“I went to get a business license the other day and I was asked for immigration papers. I haven’t been asked for immigration papers in 35 years,”

Well there was a time when I wasn't frisked at the airport either, but this is a new day with new problems. If you CARE about this country you have sworn allegiance to, then participate in the solution because this invasion is killing our country!

JerryGonzalez
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November 09, 2011
IN addition, no one from this newspaper was willing to speak with me after the panel discussion at all to get the other side of the story. Odd journalism, I thought...usually, a journalist would speak to both sides of an issue rather than only to speak to one side.
souixana
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November 09, 2011
The OTHER side of the story? Are you kidding me? Are you even a citizen Mr.Gonzalez? Evidently you haven't had your deadbolted door kicked in by 2 Mexican Foreign Nationals like I have. Doo you know what that has done to my life? Of course you don't. I am all for immigration. My daughter in law is from Korea and she and my son jumped through all the federal firehoops. Why should anyone else not have to do the same? Let's say France decided to drop MILLIONS of french people from airplanes, parachuting into our neighborhoods because they want a 'better life" so they apply for and get jobs and no doc loans and the criminal element starts doing forced entry home invasions and killing people by drunk driving ETC do you think the US Federal government would do anything about that? I do not get why they won't protect me from the people you represent. I just don't get it. But I do know one thing. The AMERICAN CITIZENS and LEGAL IMMIGRANTS are sick of it.
JerryGonzalez
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November 09, 2011
I am Jerry Gonzalez, Executive Director of GALEO. I was invited to serve on this panel on HB87 since July 2011. I had agreed to be on the panel, as he had served on many other panels across the state with various other professionals of different perspectives. Everything was good to go on Friday when I received the email and the questions for the discussion. In fact, in the sign in sheet, I was still listed as a panelist when I checked in. However, on Monday, the day before the panel, I received a phone call from the Chapter President to dis-invite me from being on the panel because I belonged to "one of those groups". I believe that Rep. Katie Dempsey did not want me to challenge some of her rhetorical statements on the panel in front of her constituents. In fact, she did make some broad generalizations and refused to address the real serious problems with the mess that HB87 has created for local govts and businesses. After the panel discussion was over, I went to question GA State Rep. Katie Dempsey (R-Rome) on some of the statements she made. One of her allies physically blocked and shoved me while Dempsey walked away refusing to answer questions. Then a police office blocked me from following Dempsey, which is why he had to raise his voice in order for Dempsey to hear his questions. All in all, SHRM should be ashamed of themselves for the sham panel discussion and for trying to silence growing and strong opposition to HB87. As a matter of fact, GALEO's position of opposing HB87 was the same as the GA CHamber of Commerce, the GA Restaurant Association, the Catholic Bishops, along with many other faith groups, and many other business leaders across our state. I will welcome the opportunity to come back to Rome and debate GA State Rep. Katie Dempsey on the facts and reality of HB87 any time we can agree upon. However, it seems that she and many within her leadership in the Legislature are afraid to be held accountable for the mess that they have created with HB87.
souixana
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November 09, 2011
And another thing....If you support ILLEGAL Aliens being in the USA and you ARE a citizen, then I think you are a traitor.
USAmerican100
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November 09, 2011
"GALEO's position of opposing HB87 was the same as the GA CHamber of Commerce, the GA Restaurant Association, the Catholic Bishops"

Traitors all, and that includes you Mr. Gonzalez
TheSeer
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November 09, 2011
From reading the story and looking at the video, it appears that this whole event was badly mishandled by the sponsoring group. You don't invite someone from out of town to be on a panel, have them travel to Rome, and then tell them they aren't going to be on the panel. Ms. Langlois was abruptly cut off on the grounds that she was straying from the employment topic, while Rep. Dempsey was allowed to go on and on with answers that had nothing to do with employment. If you are truly going to have a panel, let everybody have their say--not just those whose responses agree with yours.
ealf
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November 09, 2011
Personally I am sick and tired of people crying racial profiling. If so many were not coming to this country illegally this would not be an issue. The government should be inforcing federal laws. People wonder why the unemployment rate is higher than it has ever been and say there are no jobs? Is that really a question, the illegal's have the blue collar jobs. Come on American's and I mean American's of every race let's take our country back!
ElephantWhip
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November 09, 2011
Missed a comma: "...appearance, they...."

Changes the meaning a little, but without the comma, it works too.
ElephantWhip
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November 09, 2011
In short: immigration law targets illegal immigrants. When Hispanic American Citizens mention that they experience the profiling even though they are citizens, just because of their physical appearance they are told to shut up and quit being so uppity.

What a great, open-minded discussion.
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