Men evicted from Salvation Army after repeated damage
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Capt. Tim Farrell of the Rome Salvation Army said he knows some might consider him The Grinch who stole Christmas, but a decision Monday to remove some men from the shelter was necessary.

During the past week someone ripped a thermostat and wiring from a wall, destroyed some plumbing and intentionally stopped up a toilet at the 317 First Ave. shelter, said Farrell.

After about a week of vandalism, Farrell said he called the men together Monday night and asked who did the damage and then asked them if they knew who did it.

Since no one stepped forward, he decided to ask the men to leave the shelter.

He said the shelter is still open, but the 12 to 15 men who were there Monday won’t be allowed back for at least six months.

“I don’t know what else to do,” Farrell said. “It’s a lose-lose situation. I know I have to help the homeless but I also have a duty to protect the property for the donors.”

Farrell said in all likelihood there are some innocent people who will suffer because of his decision, but felt like he had no choice.

He said Tuesday he had no cost estimate of the damage because a plumber and electrician have not finished their work.

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MrHolise
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December 23, 2011
My reply is rather lengthy. It is here at CyberWhaleWarrior.com, my site. While I was not one of the men evicted, I did stay there and heard the continual threats to be booted if one person screwed up. Please see my post at
Vincent_Rubicon
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December 22, 2011
Dear God Voter....

I've given you the benefit of the doubt here because sometimes you make decent posts but the one in here is just terrible. I've met and talked to Mr. Farrell several times and I always found him to be a caring person who a passion for helping people. You have no base to call him a drunk. You are pathetic and a sad person.
kropit
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December 21, 2011
Apparently, the problem in Rome, GA is not just the Salvation Army’s treatment of the homeless. The problem is that there is a selective comprehension of issues at the local level. You certainly have a right to your opinion but not to your own set of facts. If you really want to hear both sides, then read the related posts on Rome N-T Facebook wall https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150466693903631&id=6160303630 AND the writings of Holise Cleveland whose blogging is very revealing. You don’t need to agree with me, but you should have enough integrity to hear both sides and stop blaming the victims. Please stop the exaggerations: the homeless were not about to burn the place down, they are not in charge of the Salvation Prison; we are not talking about birth control and abortions; you need to stop the hate speech. The Salvation Army should stop taking buckets of money while they are throwing men out on the street at 6:30 AM daily and sometimes at 8 PM for 6 months at a time.
j02
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December 21, 2011
I read both sides of these stories, and it sounds to me that these men expect a place to sleep and free coffee, but don't want to follow any of the rules put in place by the SA. While some of the rules may be a little drastic, I am of the mind that they had to be made in order to create a clean/non-chaotic environment, and not because the SA employees want to see these men suffer. As for being kicked onto the streets at 6:30 a.m., I am also thinking that is so the homeless can look for job opportunities to better themselves instead of having to depend on the SA and other shelters in Rome. I do not understand how their harsh rules have anything to do with the men damaging property. Disagreeing with the rules set in front of you is no reason to damage the property of another human or business. I wish these men well, and I also wish for them the ability to better themselves so they will not have to depend on the SA.
AncientRoman
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December 21, 2011
Capt. Tim Farrell is one of the best and most dedicated men I know, and I do know him, so I don't have to rely on baseless speculation and cowardly slander. Taking this action would have been an absolute last resort on his part. As a Salvation Army donor, I appreciate his action in preserving their facility for those who both need it and are not engaged in destroying it.

Some of you inventive cowards who know nothing about a situation should just keep your ignorance to yourselves.
kropit
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December 21, 2011
I am not surprised at the outrage expressed here against the homeless who may have issues with drugs, alcohol and other social ills. Yes, some of them have issues and attitudes that other people shy away from; it might be fear, it might be indignation and it might be human nature at its worst. I am surprised that it is coming from people who may be close to being homeless themselves; certainly doesn't seem to be coming from the top 1%.

The Salvation Army is a charity but is it charitable and compassionate? It exists “to meet human needs”, but which humans and which needs? Obviously it is not for the self righteous, indignant, pompous people complaining about the homeless who may very well be malnourished and starving, and unknowingly dare to look at someone eating with a longing stare.

The Salvation Army has a self proclaimed mandate to help the homeless. If it can’t manage the homeless then it should stop pretending to be their champion or their “Salvation”. It should stop taking money on a pretense and let other organizations take care of the homeless.

PhilMaco – yes you do sound mean and pompous, and you offer no solutions; you just spit venom. I have heard similar statements before; they amount to “blame the victim”. I am not fooled by the homeless and their issues. The point is that either The Salvation Army collects money and helps those in need or they stop pretending, stop collecting and get out of the way. There is no room in this endeavor for petty tyrants and vindictive actions against the must vulnerable in our society.

j02
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December 21, 2011
I am baffled by the people leaving comments against the Salvation Army. What was this man supposed to do, let them tear down the building? It is ridiculous to think that just because they are homeless they have no repercussions when they do wrong! And surely if I were homeless I would have had the forethought to have spoken up and "snitched" rather than lose a roof over my head! I applaud this man's actions, and the message he sent to others that may want to go in there and act a fool! Being homeless does not give these men the right to act in such a selfish manner!
kropit
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December 21, 2011
This man should MANAGE the situation and weed out the bad apples. If he can't or doesn't know how then he should resign. At this point, he didn't even know who damaged the thermostat. Are you sure that it wasn't a disgruntle employee? Did all of the 15 men know who was responsible for damage? I do not condone what someone did but does that mean that you should round up everyone, convict them and sentence them to 6 months out in the street during winter. Guilt by association is a tool of coward.
drlove
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December 20, 2011
the salvation army is supose to be a christian organizision what happen to forgivenest? when it comes to money them values are out the window. no more donation from me.
appalucy
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December 21, 2011
No one took responsibility and no one spoke up at to the person/people responsible? Obviously, these are the consequences for their actions. Christians can forgive, that doesn't mean they should ignore men that are vandalizing the property and let them continue without repercussion? Is this what YOU would do if you were helping someone out? Do you think this is acceptable behavior?
Icareaboutrome
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December 20, 2011
Exactly.... "astounding force"
schnitzeldo
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December 21, 2011
Um. Hate to break it to you, but you're still not understanding the definition of the word. If you say stupendous, as it says in the pasted definition below, it means "marvelous." Wonderful. Great!

Icareaboutrome
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December 20, 2011
Unacceptable and dangerous behavior. Take the time and get to the bottom of it before punishing everyone. This is stupendous behavior on the part of the administration. Hardly any of the money donated to those bell ringing stations outside stores actually goes to benefit those in need. SHAME SHAME SHAME. I am sick to death of hearing things like this about our local Salvation Army. I know for a fact that there are several other locations in other cities where I have lived in the past that are run very well. Sadly this is not even on the top 5 list of bad stories I know of regarding our local branch. There are several other organizations in Rome that provide services to those in need that are honest and trustworthy. I urge you to spread this story to all you know. Band together and send a message that this will not be allowed anymore. Did someone cross the line and mess up??? YES and whomever that vandal was will be dealt with one day. But I am SICK SICK SICK to death of hearing about trusted and recognized names of organizations who provide services to those in need getting all the funds from trusting donors and screwing over those they are supposed to be serving. Tell everyone you know in Rome. Our local Salvation Army is not a good organization. They are NOT TO BE TRUSTED AGAIN!
P.T.
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December 21, 2011
notinrome, it also means astonishing and amazing, so yes Icareaboutrome used it correctly. All you do on here is bully all the other posters. YOU are the real troll on this site! Not a very intelligent one at that.
tedb3rd
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December 20, 2011
I wonder if it was the same person who leaves all the Kroger shopping carts scattered up and down East 1st Avenue. Or maybe it's the guy who's always peeing in the bushes next to the workout gym... This will be nice if it was--won't have to put up with that for 6 months!
grasshopper75
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December 20, 2011
First of all pattersonalan95,I would not have lost my place to stay because of someone else and their stupidity. I would not want t be a snitch,but hey ,I would if it meant me being cold. I agree with this mans actions,he should not have to babysit grown men. They should have to come back and work off the cost of their destruction. And secondly, I seriously doubt this man came in and cut jobs and pay without some sort of explanation,some people over exagerate their stories on here. Just saying.
D.M.
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December 20, 2011
Just because someone is homeless doesn't make them any less responsible for their behavior. This man made the right decision.
pattersonalan95
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December 20, 2011
I was one of those asked to leave so i have a view some may not.This i do know,some come into the shelter to change policy.Some did not want to follow the rules after being warned several times.I lost my place to stay because some guys did stupid things and threw everyone else under the bus.Some just did not want to quit drinkig,using drugs or selling drugs,and they wanted control so they could do so.Get upset with those who said(i hate Christians) while at the same time living in there shelter,getting cloths,and eatng there food.
musterup
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December 20, 2011
*surprise
musterup
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December 20, 2011
@mysteriously - I won't argue that they should have been given an explanation, but demotions come at no suprise. Especially considering the Goodwill that just opened in town. I feel he made the right choice here, you can't bite the hand that feeds you. Someone knew who was to blame but didn't speak up.
Mysteriously
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December 20, 2011
Just last week, Farrell demoted 2 longterm (25 plus years)employee's of the thrift store and cut the pay of one of them with NO explanation!!! Now, kicking the homeless out???? I hope he sleeps well at night!
Vincent_Rubicon
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December 20, 2011
Maybe they didn't have enough money to pay for everything because charities are hurting financially? I seriously doubt that he didn't give an explanation.
schnitzeldo
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December 20, 2011
Oh my gosh! They destroyed the property. The very place that took them in, they destroyed. I absolutely hate if for the men who did not take part in the vandalism (which is what it is), but these are grown men, living for free, and acting like juvenile delinquents. I'd have kicked them out too. You want somewhere to stay? Don't rip the thermostat out of the wall or clog up the potty. Very simple.
anabelle_lee
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December 20, 2011
mysteriously I can see that he might have to demote or even fire some of the employees. They are the rudest people to deal with especially the ones doing community service. The people in charge let them talk to the customers anyway they please. It used to be just at the 2nd avenue store but the other one is not very pleasant now either. I love to go to thrift stores but I decided a while back that it would be yard sales or Goodwill for me.
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