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by Diane Wagner
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Barry Loudermilk
Barry Loudermilk
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State Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Cassville, is taking his battle against red-light cameras to Washington, D.C.

See Loudermilk's testimony before the U.S. House Subcommittee on Utilization and Impacts of Automated Traffic Enforcement.

Click to see the subcommittee website to see a live webcast of the hearings.

The federal government does not regulate red-light cameras or speed cameras, but it does allow grant money to be used to purchase the equipment as a road safety initiative.

However, the subcommittee’s agenda summary notes that the use of red-light cameras in approximately 482 communities across the nation “has led to wide variations in automated traffic enforcement models.”

Loudermilk is slated to talk about his push to regulate the cameras in Georgia, including a 2008 law that requires an extra second for yellow lights at intersections monitored by the cameras. The delay cut fine revenue, leading some jurisdictions to abandon the operation as a financial drain.

The city of Rome cut a deal with Redflex that lets it continue to run cameras at Turner McCall Boulevard and Hicks Drive under a break-even contract.

The hearing is scheduled to start at 10 a.m. Other witnesses include representatives from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, a road safety advocacy association and a motorist association.

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EagleHawk
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July 02, 2010
If they are all that great in reducing accidents why are the tickets generated not counted against the drivers record ? Why are they only installed at intersections where they generate revenue ? Also why were they originally set to change to red at a rate faster than any DOT regulated red lights were allowed to operate. They are only a way to generate revenue, don't increase public safety, and there are no real data to disprove those last two statements and in my opinion should be outlawed.
bestmom2
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July 02, 2010
Reguardless people are still going to be running redlights.Just last month the first week in June my husbands grandmother was killed in an accident where a dumptruck didnt run a redlight but actually kept going through a yellow light. The result was he hit her in the drivers door and she died from her injuries at the ER.That being said, it really doesnt matter if they have cameras or not. People are gonna do what they are gonna do and most of the time they dont think about the aftermath of what they done.Some folks just dont care and dont mind paying a ticket. For me its not just about paying a ticket, I actually care about what may happen to other people on the road not to mention the ones I love that are in the car with me.
BigHippo234
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July 01, 2010
The cameras have been great in many cities. Here people are too busy talking on their cell phones, or texting while driving, that they are no longer aware of the roads. Now that we have the red light cameras it is slowing people down, and they are becoming more aware of the road. To pay the price of a ticket, is cheaper then paying the price of somebodys life in an accident.
MIKYGA
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July 01, 2010
Sorry, last line should say "Isn't broken"
MIKYGA
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July 01, 2010
Ms. Lee, if that's your belief then fine. Agree to disagree. I'll just stick with what I've got now. It's worked well thus far and I hate to fix something that, for myself anyway, it's broken.
MIKYGA
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July 01, 2010
I don't think it matters very much if you argue with a cop or a camera about driving infractions. The vast majority of the time you will still lose your argument, unless there's a camera crew following your every move AND an actual issue with the light/camera/officer.

I seriously doubt cops are bored enough to lie about speeders and those running red lights. That would just mean going to court to argue it and no one wants to bother with that. Regarding camera screw ups, sure it could happen, and so could democracy in North Korea.

Just be responsible for your actions and pay the ticket. I agree with the main point of the article in that there should be a standard operating proceedure in reference to these cameras being used. That just makes sense. But trying to get out of paying your fine is juvenile.

"I swear that light was PINK, officer!"
richardcranium
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July 01, 2010
Well, if the offense is not vehicular, then the cops DO show-up after the fact. They usually don't infiltrate families, for example, looking for bad check writers. But when it comes down to vehicular infractions, then the cops hide in the shadows with their radar guns pointed up-stream.

Are the people who run red lights criminals? I'm not sure. Are they a problem? Yes, of course; especially if their action injures another party. Should some enforcement action be taken to reduce red light running? Yes, of course. How about putting a cop with a camera on every corner? At least that way when the cop signs the ticket he isn't purgering himself, he actually did witness the offense.

Here's the problem as I see it. I am charged by an officer who didn't actually witness the offense. I can't question the only witness because cameras can't talk. There isn't any way to know if the camera failed and took the picture at the wrong time. The owner of the vehicle receives the citation not the operator. Try running a stop sign or speeding and insist that the officer write the ticket to someone other than you!

The biggest problem with red light cameras is actually how other, law abiding, divers react when they approach an intersection whether the intersection has cameras or not. As soon as the light turns yellow they slam on the brakes. That just isn't necessary and causes many rear-end collisions.

Educating the driving public as to how the cameras actually work could reduce a ot of these problems. But that won't legalize the cameras. A good attorney could beat all of these cases on constitutional grounds all day long. Problem is it would be expensive and most people opt to pay the ticket. Hence, the cities continue to rip-off the populace.
MIKYGA
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July 01, 2010
Ms. Lee writes: "Get rid of all cops except for the sheriff and a few deputies. Would we be any worse off. Citizens could be deputized for emergencies and the real crimes would be the only ones that they would have time to bother with."

Citizens could be deputized for emergencies? Who is doing the deputizing and from what pool of citizens are they drawing from? Would you be suggesting that all citizens recieve law enforcement training? In a perfect world, sure, but it's awfully expensive. And I seriously doubt many citizens would jump at the chance to be deputized, prefering instead to "mind their own business". For those that would like to participate and potentially risk their lives in the process for what I imagine would be very little or no pay, I'd have to wonder what kind of people they are.

So in response to your last post, yes, what you are suggesting seems like a very short step towards everyone just taking the law into their own hands. And when I say that, in no way do I mean that you don't have the right to defend yourself, a loved one, or anyone else from an obvious physical attack.

However, I think we are beyond the point of "rustlin' up a posse" in order to catch the bad guys.
MIKYGA
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July 01, 2010
In the strictest sense of the word, then yes, you are right. I'm not going to argue semantics.

However, if you would be so kind as to read the rest of what I previously posted it should be evident that I fully support cameras monitoring red lights. Just so there's no confusion.
RealEstateMystic
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July 01, 2010
MIKYGA writes: "Running a red light doesn't necessarily make someone criminal."

Last I checked, running a red light violates the law, just as (say) illegal immigration does. If we're going to be a nation of laws, we've got to hold to hold ourselves to the same standard that we hold others, and not only when it's convenient for us.

A person who runs a red light is indeed, in that instance at least, a criminal.
MIKYGA
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July 01, 2010
Running a red light doesn't neccessarily make someone a criminal, but it is dangerous to others. And so what if these cameras are "just money-makers"? That money is a great supplement to city funds, and getting it from those who are breaking an obvious traffic law is a good way to do it.

Regarding people slamming on their brakes, well quite frankly they should have been paying attention and slowing down when the yellow light comes on.

And Ms. Lee, it seems like what you are suggesting is vigilante justice. As much as I enjoyed the movie "Boondock Saints" such actions would undoubtably do more harm than good. With the relatively high population and area of Rome, without even counting the outerlying towns, your suggestion of only having a handfull of law enforcement officers is ridiculous at best. The Wild West may have had it's appeal, but I think we've come too far to backslide into such a culture now.
bestmom2
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July 01, 2010
Cameras are just money makers.And FYI...running a red light does not make you a criminal!These cameras are going to cause wrecks because of people slamming on their brakes to stop.
GoDawgs85
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June 30, 2010
The cameras need to be set up in a way that they can catch the criminals threatening our streets- the red light runners. When a person runs a red light they acknowledge the chance that they could hurt other people, but ignore it because they believe that they're more important. Cameras are a way for the police to help catch these criminals who threaten everyone on the road.
CALLCNNORFOX
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June 29, 2010
What's up with the headline RN-T?

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